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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39   #1
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Default HOM Fail again : A ( soft ) petition!

So here is the story. Pls Mods read all and let me know if anything here need to be changed according to Guru policies as this is not a random rant about HoM but a serious mather. It is mainly to help the community on not spending 200k + on items that wont be able to be added to HoM, Thnx.

To make it short I have tried to get infos on this but it seem that a very few of us have filled the Hom with everything in there.

So last night I bought 100 Onyx, diamonds and everything I needed for the 10 weapons missing since I already had a Fire Staff there : Note I am an Ele.

So I get some ELE stuff + tactic shield, warr items as well to make it a bit different. The items I have now a problem with and I don't think it's a bug just a major failure : You can't add more then 1 Ele staff on your HOM....WTH ???

Why is that so badly coded that Devs want an Ele to buy Hammers, Bows or even another Profession Staff.

It's gets even worst...I have a fire staff.....can't even seem to fit there a Fire Focus ???? Wow.

Why is this as bad pls. I am sure there is a thing I must know about this and since a Full 11 Weapons set is more then 500k....fews have been there being surprised about this frustrating detail.

So am I the only one who bought 5-6 Destroyers Weapons who are now totally useless, who are so unwanted by community even at half the price it cost ?

Plz no QQing and no bad words just the usual constructive criticism and Pls sign this if you agree on the fast that a profession should be able to buy 4-5 staff like for an Ele a complete set Fire, water, EStorage, Earth and Air and to be able to put it there.

Don't think it was meant to be that way and I am not asking for tormented Weapons to be added or any silly things...just a normal way of adding the weapons according to your profession. Gaile, if you read this Pls let us know if Dev know about this and are willing to make a change eventually before GW2.

Thanks all and be good

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08   #2
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Well it only makes sense that you can only add one of the same weapon...
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14   #3
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Well it only makes sense that you can only add one of the same weapon...
I mean it's ok not to add 2 fire staff that make sens. Maybee even that adding a full set of Ele based staff is not ok as this is prestige display but what about the fire focus ? What are your though on that one ?

I think this still need a little improvement but I might be wrong. What the comunity think is what I am wondering but mostly am I the only one who bought some items and was surprised that you cant add em at all ?

Thank you for the answers with actual opinions,

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #4
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Well, for one thing, it's really hard to read your post. Try spell checking or something.

Another thing, if you want this to be taken as a suggestion (as the name would suggest), this is the wrong forum. Those go in Sardelac Sanitarium.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32   #5
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I agree ANet completely ruined the HoM idea. It was hyped as something that would have been cool if they made it as they let on as how it would work, but they ruined it by halfassing it.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33   #6
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It was clear there were 11 slots +/= 11 wep types...there were alot of restrictions placed on the HoM(not just weps). but,

alot of ppl just used common sense when their goal was to fill that part of the hom. 1 of each.

and it's pretty old how it's done/filled, cant believe this is the 1st time someone's reported something like this.

/meh.

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47   #7
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This was pointed out when it first appeared - why should a single character need to obtain and customize 11 different weapons, mostof which they cannot even use.

It's just the inconvenient design of HoM.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06   #8
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Well, for one thing, it's really hard to read your post. Try spell checking or something.

Another thing, if you want this to be taken as a suggestion (as the name would suggest), this is the wrong forum. Those go in Sardelac Sanitarium.
Thanks for the tip. Though I found 4 typo which where only double Ls or things like that the post seem clear for most. I am french so pls bare with me ^^
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09   #9
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It was clear there were 11 slots +/= 11 wep types...there were alot of restrictions placed on the HoM(not just weps). but,

alot of ppl just used common sense when their goal was to fill that part of the hom. 1 of each.

and it's pretty old how it's done/filled, cant believe this is the 1st time someone's reported something like this.

/meh.
As far as I know there is nothing on wiki or anywhere else with a warning on not to buy a fire staff and a fire focus which are totaly different items IMO.

Maybee I haven't check close enongh.

Still it is pretty vague and unclear that you must have 1 of every type since offhands and staffs are different items. It's kind of bordeline when it come at buying those only for the full monument.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24   #10
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As I read the various other posts on the HoM since its inception I thought you were only permitted the following:

1. Sword
2. Axe
3. Hammer
4. Shield
5. Bow
6. Staff
7. Wand
8. Off hand
9. Spear
10. Scythe
11. Daggers

Now I am uncertian why you cant add a fire focus if you havent added any other focus, but if you already have one focus then a second would not be permited.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28   #11
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Regardless of how it should or shouldn't be, I think as long as they're different weapons, as in not 2 fire staves, you should be able to add them, even if one is a fire staff and the other is a water staff. It does seem pretty useless for me to customize a fire staff on a ranger, or vice versa.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #12
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k your above post seems to be more cleared up than your original now... I think.

You're saying that a fire staff + a fire focus cant be placed in the hom at the same time...or are you saying that you cant place a fire staff + an earth staff in the same hom...

what ppl have explained so far is that you cant put 2 of the same wep type (staff,sword,bow,etc). staff+staff=not possible.

When I did my HoM I did pick 1 of the 11 wep types but picked a different req type for each one. (ie 1 fire, 1 heal, 1 prot)...so if what you're saying is true, the glitch you speak of is that Fire wand + Fire staff = cant be displayed since their both Fire? is that your problem?

plz clear this up + clear your 1st post somehow too. lol
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19   #13
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eh...Im still ticked bout that the dwarven armor nor any of the greens from othe campains cannot be displayed. I quit bothering with getting anythign more for my HOM cause of it
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45   #14
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what ppl have explained so far is that you cant put 2 of the same wep type (staff,sword,bow,etc). staff+staff=not possible.

When I did my HoM I did pick 1 of the 11 wep types but picked a different req type for each one. (ie 1 fire, 1 heal, 1 prot)...so if what you're saying is true, the glitch you speak of is that Fire wand + Fire staff = cant be displayed since their both Fire? is that your problem?

plz clear this up + clear your 1st post somehow too. lol
Hmm where you able to put a Heal Staff, Prot Staff and Fire Staff or a Wand, Focus and Staff of the above type ?

UPDATE ON MY PROBLEM

Ok. An update on my problem which is almost fixed now. Just went back to HoM and it's kind of strange now, the focus and wand are now there 0.o

Maybe it was a lag issue or anything like that. The items are now customized at my name but last night they where not customized and impossible to put em on the Display.

I had some weird stuff going on like a disconnection, going back to main screen with a blank 4 slot asking me to make a new char ( I was told this happen sometimes randomly ). Maybe there was a issue with my account or server / place I was in. Can't tell ya how bad I felt with 29 titles maxed and seeing a 4 blank slots main page when I have all games expansions + 6 additional slots.

So the only trouble now is the fact that I will have to accept, until further changes about the HoM, the issue where only 1 staff can be put there.

Monument don't even tell you if the staff is a fire one etc..just a destroyer staff basically.

Hope that will clarify this issue and this post is mainly to avoid players not to make the same mistake and buying the weapons and to be bummed about it.

Weapons I have now on display are :

Sword
Axe
Shield
Spear
Staff
Focus
Wand

Still impossible to put the second focus and 3 different staffs. Note I have only 1 fire staff the rest is Water, Earth, Air.

Hope they make a change on how the display can be updated but I will probably buy 4 new weapons and live with it.

Peace N Gore

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19   #15
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Yah HoM is a load of crap.

It would makes sense if people could actually add weapons I'd much rather display my fellblade or tormented sword instead of some god awfully ugly destroyer sword (WTF is that thing anyway....)
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 08:58 AM // 08:58   #16
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Yah HoM is a load of crap.

It would makes sense if people could actually add weapons I'd much rather display my fellblade or tormented sword instead of some god awfully ugly destroyer sword (WTF is that thing anyway....)
Again it's not about this choice but more about the fact that you must buy a Scythe or a pair of Daggers for an Ele for exemple.

I had a weird bug but it seem ok now. Still I am a bit mad at the fact you can't add a full set of weapons from the class you are.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02   #17
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They just should have added a massive monument where we could add all kinds of green items. Some kind of collector monument.

This would exclude Tormented Weapons and stuff, but even this half-assed solution would be better than the totally screwed up 11 Destroyer weapons thing.

None of my favorite and most used gold/green/whatever weapons is displayed in this hall. None! Except maybe the Destroyer Axe I learnt to love.


I just have given up. All HoMs look very much the same, nothing is special or individual.

Just add to it to have some kind of still unrevealed extra in GW2. I bet we will cry if we hear what we get for our efforts.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:10 PM // 12:10   #18
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Again it's not about this choice but more about the fact that you must buy a Scythe or a pair of Daggers for an Ele for exemple.
Completely with you on that one. The Weapons monument is nothing but a gold sink for the seriously rich, when am I ever going to use a hammer when playing my ele? Screw that, frankly. Sure I could buy one and give it to Koss, because I sure as hell can't give it to my warrior once it's been customised by the HoM, but why the hell would I want to pay 100k for a hammer just to give it to him? Plus there's the storage space issue. A minimum of 9 weapons sucking up room that could be used by my other character's stuff.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20   #19
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Yah, they should be dedicated, not customized.
Even if you make that 'dedication' allow to store them and use with other characters, but not trade it, it would be ok.
Even then.

And If there are Destroyer and Torment weapons, why aren't there Titan and Shiro'ken ones?
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26   #20
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This was pointed out when it first appeared - why should a single character need to obtain and customize 11 different weapons, mostof which they cannot even use.
You don't NEED to do anything.
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